http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nofog/2010/08/21/jehovahs-witnesses--alternative-service
Great info on alternative service.
i`m thinking back to the 1960`s/70s of a watchtower article who described a greek brother who was imprisoned for refusing military conscription service and was sentenced to 5 yrs imprionment by the govt.at the end of his confinement he was again ordered to serve in the military,which he declined and was sentenced to another 5 yrs in prison ,i think this occured one more time.
( at that time their was no way you did alternative service ) of course he was hailed as a faithful brother who wouldn`t compromise his beleifs.of course their were probably many more people who went through an experience like this.is their anybody on the board who can verify,or enlighten us to this experience?
i would like to know what happened to the poor buggers who sacrificed their lives in this way.. smiddy.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nofog/2010/08/21/jehovahs-witnesses--alternative-service
Great info on alternative service.
normal operations?
shut down because nothing else is moving?.
it is coming up in book manuscript and i realized i didn't know (althogh i've seen pictures of christmas dinner at bethel in chuck's day)..
THEY FUGGIN WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I never knew how important holidays were till I got to bethel. When I was pioneering trying to get to bethel, I would work holidays if asked for the extra money (double time.) At bethel its like 'oh yeah we don't celebrate holidays so care yo ass in and make books.'
Aint nothing worse than walking to the factory on thanksgiving or x-mas day...AND dont get me started on NEW YEARS day and all the bowl games you miss.
O and nevermind the fact that dispite my sorry ass lions (my football team) playing on thanksgiving day nationwide, I didn't get to see them cause I WAS MAKING CULT LITERATURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
My everyday beer is michelob ultra, just beers I like and seek out newcastle and magic hat nine magic hat circus boy. Now when I'm feeling festive or got some extra money I get a bottle of Chimay ale grand reserve...$14 a pop BUT IT HAS SOME KICK!!!
I plan to find one of these tonight
http://www.baersbeverageinc.com/logos/image/beers/MOYLANS/KILT%20LIFTER.jpg
it's a song by rascal flatts.
it really sums up my feelings about the jw's.
i have finally reached a point where i am at peace with my past.
Thanks for sharing.
just wanted to let anyone interested know that i've posted a couple new blogs.
http://jwcritic.blogspot.com/.
.
Just read all 9 pages and Sab did kill it with his response!
Hate to pile on BD but this irked me:
Consequences? What consequences?
Mark 9:42-48: “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin,it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea. 43 And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire. 45 And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame than with two feet to be thrown into hell. 47 And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into hell, 48 ‘where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’
I mean IF EVER there was a passage that was a parable or illustration this is it! 'If your hand causes you to sin cut it off?!?' Hey BD ever jack off? Well your hand has to go. 'If your eye causes you to sin, tear it out?!?' According to jesus just looking too long at a woman you have commited adultry in your heart so there SHOULD BE A TON of christian men with eyes torn out.
BUT...when you show him a scripture about rape or the ill treatment accorded to women than ALL OF A SUDDEN the bible is not to be taken literal and all these other bumfuck excuses come out. GTFOH!
One thing interesting about the scripture in zechariah you cant say ' hey its figurative' or not to be taken literally.
We know jeruselem was 1 taken by the 'nations' 2 plundered for its spoils 3 half taken into exile and unfortuantely 4 women ravished or raped. As stated at the outset of the scripture these are things that god or 'the Lord' put into action and cause to happen. He gathered the 'nations' together to do those things.
Already been posted I meant zechariah not zephaniah (always get those mixed up.
Psacramento:
What passage is that?
God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
the elders in the area are having their elders school.
it was announced at one hall,not to forget their badges or they wouldn't be allowed inside.. i shared with my mother some things in the elder book without telling her that's where i heard it.
she just shakes her head,but says it's still the truth.
Here is the key...To the rank and file it has Jehoovers blessing.
My wife was talking to her aunt (bat-shit crazy pioneer) and the aunt was making a big to-do about how the elders are going to NY for SPECIAL training and instruction?!?
Couple that with there good ole stand-by (and false) scripture in eph 4:8 where they claim it says god gave them gifts in men. All of this just suckers the R&F to think they have spirit direction.
What about the scripture in zephaniah where god said he will gather the nations against israel and its women will be raped/ravished? That scripture at the very least gives tacit approval for the action.
does anyone remember the rationale that was used in rebranding "back calls" as "return visits"?.
while on the subject does anyone else remember any theocratic name changes like,.
district assembly to district convention.
Why change colporter to pioneer?